My potential 3rd great-grand uncle George Paul Karlsberger was born on 10 August 1825 in Bavaria. Another researcher suggested his connection to my 3rd great-grandmother Anna Magaretha Karlsberger who married Christian or Christopher Hoppe. Margaretha was born 29 February 1824. There are no definitive records linking George and Margaretha. And Margaretha's parents were not recorded, though parents for George were suggested.
As you can see, I am about to head down a twig on the tree that might be gnarled, or legitimate. George Karlsberger had six children born in Columbus, Franklin County, Ohio to his wife Maria Elizabeth Danner (born 8 July 1833 in Germany). The mystery concerns two of his children. I'll disregard the other children for the purpose of this post.
In the 1870 US Census1 , George and Maria are living in the Montgomery area of Franklin, Ohio. The two daughters in question Magdalena, 8, and Margaret, 6, are in the home (along with the other children).
In the 1880 US Census2, George and Maria are living in the Marion area of Franklin, Ohio. Again the two daughters in question are recorded but this time their names are Mary M, 18, and Maggie, 16. Maggie is often a nickname for Magdalena. Family records record Mary M as Mary Margaret.
Which age/name combination is correct? Is Mary Margaret 18 or 16 in 1880 and thus which age is Magdalena or Maggie? This seems a minor inconvenience until one asks the follow question:
Who did Charles H Stahl marry on 12 Apr 1883?
|Marriage of Charles Stall to Mary Calsberger|
"Ohio, County Marriages, 1789-1994," index and images, FamilySearch (Charles Stall and Mary Carlsberger,
12 Apr 1883; citing Franklin, Ohio, United States, reference 25; FHL microfilm 285149.
At quick glance, one would be lead to believe that this would be Mary Margaret Karlsberger.
The 1900 US census would appear to support this claim. The family included:
Head Chas. H. Stahl, 42
Wife Mary M. Stahl, 38
Daughter Mary E. Stahl, 17
Daughter Odelia Stahl, 15
Daughter Katie M. Stahl, 12
Daughter Artie Stahl, 10
Daughter Ivy Stahl, 7
Son Harvey C. Stahl, 4
The 1910 US Census has the family as this:
Head Charles H Stahl, 50
Wife Mary M Stahl, 47
Daughter Catia M Stahl, 21
Daughter Artie B Stahl, 19
Daughter Ivy E Stahl, 16
Son Harvey C Stahl, 14
Daughter Lorene L Stahl, 9
Daughter Hellen M Stahl, 6
** their eldest daughter Mary should be married to Mr. Francisco
The 1920 US Census records the family as this:
Head Charles Stahl, 60
Wife Mary M Stahl 58
Daughter Katy M Stahl 31
Daughter Ivy Stahl, 27
Son Harvey Stahl, 23
Daughter Lovenne Stahl, 19
Daughter Helen Stahl, 16
** Arite is no longer in the home.
The 1930 US Census records shows the family as this:
Head Charles H Stahl, 70
Wife Mary M Stahl, 67
Daughter Lorinna L Stahl 29
The 1940 US Census records shows the family as this:
Head Charles H Stahl, 80
Wife Mary M Stahl, 77
Daughter Lorinna L Stahl 59 (although this should probably read 39)
However, the trouble comes when the marriage records for the children are examined.
Mary E.'s second marriage, in 1917, lists her mother as Magdalina Karlsberger but her 1920 death record lists her mother's name as Mary Karlsberger.
Odelia's 1906 marriage record doesn't help as she does not name her mother's first name, only the last name of Carlsberger.
Katie M's 1888 birth record indicates that her mother's name is Mary M Karleberger but her 1923 marriage record lists her mother as Magdalene Garlsberger
Ivy's 1893 birth record indicates her mother's name is Mary M Carlsberger and her 1927 death record says Mary Karlsburger
Charles H Stahl was born in 1896 and his mother was Mary M Karlsberger. It is believed Charles H became known as Havery C.
Helen's 1940 second marriage record lists her mother as May Kalsberger
Lorinne Lucille's 1992 death record only lists her father and mother's last names.
Charles' 1946 death record indicates that he was married to Mary M Stahl.
Given the above information, one would be lead to believe that use of Magdalene, the sister or Mary M Karlsberger, was an error on the part of someone providing the information or the person writing the information down. Especially since two records for the same person conflict at later dates.
What do you think?